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		<title>By: wilder</title>
		<link>http://www.joshmillard.com/2008/06/10/what-happens-in-metafilter/comment-page-1/#comment-39747</link>
		<dc:creator>wilder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMFG! But....but... I thought I was a &quot;snowflake&quot; a precious snowflake! Not a snowclone. Urgh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMFG! But&#8230;.but&#8230; I thought I was a &#8220;snowflake&#8221; a precious snowflake! Not a snowclone. Urgh!</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Millard</title>
		<link>http://www.joshmillard.com/2008/06/10/what-happens-in-metafilter/comment-page-1/#comment-36514</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Millard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A minor thing I had meant to emphasize but forgot: there&#039;s an interesting variety in the &quot;Mefi-related&quot; section in how folks deal with choosing X for &quot;meetup&quot;.  Three variants, in order:

1. What happens on &lt;b&gt;a MeFi Meetup&lt;/b&gt; stays &lt;b&gt;at the MeFi Meetup&lt;/b&gt;
2. what happens &lt;b&gt;at MeFi meetup&lt;/b&gt; stays at MeFi meetup
3. what happens &lt;b&gt;at Meet-up&lt;/b&gt; stays at Meet-up

Now, &quot;meetup&quot; is (in normal use on metafilter) a common noun that takes an article.  So form (1) is the only unimpeachably grammatical of the three.  

But Vegas, of course, takes no article and is a proper noun, and so (2) and (3) hew more closely to the strict form of the snowclone template itself, even if they require a bit of stretching from conventional use of &quot;meetup&quot;.

So it&#039;s interesting to see examples of people making that decision in either direction.

Also interesting is the use of two different prepositions in (1): on, and then at.  I&#039;d say I normally go to a meetup and spend time &lt;i&gt;at&lt;/i&gt; it, but I suppose someone could consider a meetup like a field trip and thus something you can go &lt;i&gt;on&lt;/i&gt;.  Especially so if it involves travel or a group excursion, I suppose.

(Most meetups generally focus on group libation.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A minor thing I had meant to emphasize but forgot: there&#8217;s an interesting variety in the &#8220;Mefi-related&#8221; section in how folks deal with choosing X for &#8220;meetup&#8221;.  Three variants, in order:</p>
<p>1. What happens on <b>a MeFi Meetup</b> stays <b>at the MeFi Meetup</b><br />
2. what happens <b>at MeFi meetup</b> stays at MeFi meetup<br />
3. what happens <b>at Meet-up</b> stays at Meet-up</p>
<p>Now, &#8220;meetup&#8221; is (in normal use on metafilter) a common noun that takes an article.  So form (1) is the only unimpeachably grammatical of the three.  </p>
<p>But Vegas, of course, takes no article and is a proper noun, and so (2) and (3) hew more closely to the strict form of the snowclone template itself, even if they require a bit of stretching from conventional use of &#8220;meetup&#8221;.</p>
<p>So it&#8217;s interesting to see examples of people making that decision in either direction.</p>
<p>Also interesting is the use of two different prepositions in (1): on, and then at.  I&#8217;d say I normally go to a meetup and spend time <i>at</i> it, but I suppose someone could consider a meetup like a field trip and thus something you can go <i>on</i>.  Especially so if it involves travel or a group excursion, I suppose.</p>
<p>(Most meetups generally focus on group libation.)</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Millard</title>
		<link>http://www.joshmillard.com/2008/06/10/what-happens-in-metafilter/comment-page-1/#comment-36488</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Millard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, excellent!  

&lt;i&gt;And what you say in chatfilter, stays in chatfilter.&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s exactly the sort of thing that I think qualifies as a specimen of the snowclone yet which is very hard to search for by normal means.  The more generalized form there could represented like so...

What V in X stay[s] in X

...where V is some sort of verb phrase of which &quot;happens&quot; is only the canonical form.  It&#039;s hard to search for here because, as I mentioned in the blurb of the &quot;X, Y&quot; section above, there&#039;s not a lot for a search to latch onto, if I don&#039;t have a specific idea of what X will be, because all I have to go on are the words &quot;what&quot;, &quot;in&quot;, and &quot;stay[s]&quot;.

I may exploit my access to the mefi db to do a more structured string search at some point so I can do a proper digging-about for the ordered &quot;what * in *[,] stay[s] *&quot; template, but even then I&#039;m sure there&#039;s variants I&#039;ll miss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, excellent!  </p>
<p><i>And what you say in chatfilter, stays in chatfilter.</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s exactly the sort of thing that I think qualifies as a specimen of the snowclone yet which is very hard to search for by normal means.  The more generalized form there could represented like so&#8230;</p>
<p>What V in X stay[s] in X</p>
<p>&#8230;where V is some sort of verb phrase of which &#8220;happens&#8221; is only the canonical form.  It&#8217;s hard to search for here because, as I mentioned in the blurb of the &#8220;X, Y&#8221; section above, there&#8217;s not a lot for a search to latch onto, if I don&#8217;t have a specific idea of what X will be, because all I have to go on are the words &#8220;what&#8221;, &#8220;in&#8221;, and &#8220;stay[s]&#8220;.</p>
<p>I may exploit my access to the mefi db to do a more structured string search at some point so I can do a proper digging-about for the ordered &#8220;what * in *[,] stay[s] *&#8221; template, but even then I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s variants I&#8217;ll miss.</p>
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		<title>By: mullacc</title>
		<link>http://www.joshmillard.com/2008/06/10/what-happens-in-metafilter/comment-page-1/#comment-36477</link>
		<dc:creator>mullacc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sorta used a mangled form of this phrase here:
http://metatalk.metafilter.com/13331/#368747</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sorta used a mangled form of this phrase here:<br />
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